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Waylay Question

Discussion in 'Chapter 13.2 Combat Specialization' started by Spot Gabriel, Jul 30, 2017.

  1. Spot Gabriel

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    It has been established that a helm even a light one will protect the head enough that a player cannot simple be knocked out by waylay.
    My question is if a player is using a beast character that has the Beast hide skill and has thick fur on their head or solid scales would that not do the same thing?
    The skill allows 1 point of protection where ever hide, fur or scale is represented so it would make sense to me it would protect from being waylayed.
     
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  2. Indir McArthur

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    So this would treat a beast mask as a helmet?
     
  3. Brigid Sieghart

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    I think this was brought up awhile ago, and that only if there's a reason your hide/scale based on your beast type. Like a wolf head wouldn't, but like a ram head or a deer head would. Don't quote me on that this was a few revisions ago.


    TLDR: if you have a thick skull made for head butting yes it blocks waylay.
     
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  4. King Murdoch McArthur

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    Yes this has come up a couple times. If your like a bull or a ram or something like that, I guess an armadillo would work too. But something like that yes it would, if your a wolf or, bird or a fawn or something like that then no it wouldnt.
     
  5. Wulfric Hrolfsson

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    Costume Requirements will never be a form of Armour - for one you need a skill to wear armour, and Costume requirements are not skill based, they are Roleplay based.
    The reason you don't see most Beast Characters wear armour on their head is more possibly they can't find a blacksmith or anyone to fashion a helmet to the shape of their unusual skull.
    That being said - it's not hard to actually make a helmet to fit even a Minotaur Head. Get Creative!

    Beast Thick Hide is a skill to protect you from actual Blows - if someone is hitting you in the head, then thats a completely different issue - not Waylay.

    So NO... if you want to be protected from Waylay - YOU WEAR A HELMET.
    Even a Very Hard object brought down on even the thickest skull would still knock them out.
     
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    Wulfrics seems more sure than I do, he's probably more on the know being on the rules council. So i'll defer to his info being most current and correct. I think we counted one mask one time, but that was maybe specific to that event. But a "normal" beast mask...like wolf like mine...no should not count against waylay.
     
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  7. Lodovicus Tzamarias

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    As per what Wulfric has said above.
    Only a helmet will protect a character from being Waylayed.
    It would be too hard to manage some beasts having the ability to defend against waylay and other not.
    Beast Toughness as per Wulfric will only defend against a regular blow or strike.
     
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  8. Ralik Ravenwolf

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    And that is that as they say
     
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  9. Spot Gabriel

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    Thanks all seems fair to me I just thought i'd pose the question. now off to make a custom helm for a werewolf :D
     
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    See....now I want the hounds helmet
     
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    Yeah, players definitely need a helm to protect from Waylay... to actually protect the player's head from an actual waylay if something goes wrong.

    We stress all the time that Waylay is only meant to be roleplayed and not actually performed at all, but things can go wrong. A player trips or accidentally drops their weapon and you have the potential for serious injury. All creatures, great and small, undead or beastly, should be wearing protection where it counts: eyes, head, groin, chest.

    Safety, people: breathe it.
     
  13. King Murdoch McArthur

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    Cup....wear a cup kids.

    Helm is good too
     
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