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Total Destruction

Discussion in 'Chapter 13.4 Elemental Magic Specialization' started by Lodovicus Tzamarias, Jul 24, 2016.

  1. Lodovicus Tzamarias

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    Since the total destruction spell completely obliterates the person, and everything they carry.... Can they still be resurrected if there is nothing left to resurrect?
    Just a question haha
     
  2. Ufnar Kargaroth

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    Yes, because the resurrection spell generates a new body around the spirit it's being cast on. It's not very common for a healer to resurrect a spirit using their actual corpse (due to the battle taking place away from healers), though it does happen from time to time.
     
  3. Lodovicus Tzamarias

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    Thanks for clarifying.
     
  4. Shaddie Arbel

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    I have never personally seen a resurrection take place without the healer having the body with them. Now that I know I don't need the person's remains that will save some time with moving them around and out of danger.
     
  5. Ufnar Kargaroth

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    If the corpse IS actually available, use it. It makes for much better roleplay, especially as you described with dragging the body out of the line of fire to do it. My statement was regarding players who have died far from healers and have traveled back to town/camp/etc to be resurrected. At that point, they're just spirits.
     
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  6. Artenen Aeolus

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    Another cool idea to make something out of something (not nothing) is to make a stick body and such to work off of (maybe for a witch doctor) or some other prop based on how the character performs the resurrection. It is way WAY more immerse to try and bring life back into the current body, but that is really hard to do in some situations where you're 5 miles down the trail without a healer.

    I wish we could make it where you need the old body before one could resurrect... where there was no *weapon over the head* game mechanic. If you die, you sit there until a healer comes to you or you are carried to the healers shop. That keeps it as real as possible. Again, sometimes you just can't sit there as you'll be laying around for possibly hours..
     
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  7. Wulfric Hrolfsson

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    I do like the idea of that Artenen, but a possible Solution to the whole not having someone sit around for hours is perhaps place some kind of Prop or See-able, and even LOOTABLE Object - Perhaps some kind of Death Chest or Small Dummy/Doll on the ground, and that way, you could say that the Chest/Dummy is the body, and the spirit itself can happily leave the corpse and go off and haunt people/perform Spirit Quests. With something like a White Sash or White Cloak on to represent them being a spirit?

    This is actually something I'd love to see fleshed out.
     
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  8. Artenen Aeolus

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    Not sure it has to be a rule, it just needs sensible roleplayers to make it happen like that (for my post).

    Wulfric Hrolfsson you may be onto something but we really can't change anything for a while.
     
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  9. Validantes DeMorta

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    Okay, quick, feel kinda silly for this thought, but.... Total Destruction says it destroys everything on the people it's cast on, but then tacks on that it destroys their weapons, armour, shields and kills them. Does it also destroy any loot able items carried too?
     
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    There's no body to loot?
    "completely destroy another character and everything on them. " I kinda view that as the body is vaporized.
     
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    Exactly, just wanted more opinions, because I was looking at the skill and then the posts here and saw talk of loot, and it struck me that the skill does exactly what it suggests, TOTAL Destruction. So I'd assume there is nothing to loot.
     
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    Better loot'm before the Destruction spell then. *G*
    But on another note, IF say and undead come upon a corpse of one of our allies, what if they try and Turn them before a healer gets around to resurrecting them? ....I don't know about you but I would almost PREFER to be Destucted. And is there anything like Gentle Repose that makes the copse unable to be raised as an undead?
     
  13. Brigid Sieghart

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    Yes, prevent undead blessing, it's under spiritual. It also prevents reanimation.
     
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    Thanks!
    And another non combat spell I'll want now. *sigh*
     
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    i love prevent undead blessing
     
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    You're not helping matters any, dog gone it! :mad: *Mutters again.* Most useless Valka EVER.
     
  17. Wulfric Hrolfsson

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    Poor Undead, getting all the hate... :p
    Just don't forget... that which is dead.. may still burn! :p
     
  18. Neztus Der'Mon

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    agreed, though if you burn them durring the ressurection is it attempted murder? Or the sparks of life lol
     
  19. Derek Hale

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    Just looking in the rules an easy way to negate total destruction is magic shield or spell block etc so might want to all have those at the ready if someone has that kind of power.
     
  20. Validantes DeMorta

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    Magic Shield doesn't block magic.
     
  21. Derek Hale

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    Actually it does it says it specifically in the spells section
    'Spells can be blocked with things like Spell Block, Magic Shield, and Enchanting Magic Resistance.'
     
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    There isn't a magic resistance, its called enchanting resistance and it only blocks enchantments, not magic. And Magic Shield specifically in its spell listing says "Magic Shield - Defense spell Must have 10K XP. Requires 1 mana band.
    What it does: Caster summons a temporary shield to block either a melee or ranged strike (any type). Caster holds orb out in front of them and simply says "Shield" just before something would hit them. Can block a hit from any direction. Can block any hit that a physical shield would block. It only lasts for a few moments and doesn't stick around like an aura but rather like they case a temporary shield just being getting hit. This is an instant cast by calling shield."